I’m sure they can share your data with advertisers much quicker than that.
This is the high speed drive I use to store the footage I'm actively video editing, so that I can edit it on both my iMac at the office, and then my MacBook when travelling or at home. What I do not get is why you (and apparently others) find the interface so good (compared to the one of Garmin for example)? You’ll also see it on your dashboard as well. It’s good because it means its focusing purely on heart rate data – not on nuances such as the actual sport itself. Patrick gives insight from his book: The Athlete's Gut: The Inside Science of Digestion, Nutrition, and Stomach Distress. Record directly with an H10 added only for workouts, and let the watches do their things independently maybe. I had the whoop band for about a year. All this bad does is heart rate and HRV. I haven’t tested it but when you go into Sports Profiles in Flow it has a toggle button to broadcast HR there, and it’s always turned on it appears. But what Garmin lacks in user interface hell, they make up in accuracy for workouts because you can pair to more accurate sensors if you want to. I have a Garmin HR monitor, Edge and really only generally look at Day Strain.
In general, I find Whoop does a good job at tracking sleep, though, I do find it tends to often over-estimate ‘Awake’ time. (I'd always try to keep a reference chest strap, but may be a bit uncomfortable after a few days, LOL, but at least during hard workouts). I actually do not count Whoop as fitness device but place it int he same category as Oura and HRV4training (Polar Vantage as well since it was only the readiness/recovery functions I discussed, not the activity tracking. But wait, this rabbit hole gets deeper. In my 20 days wearing it, my resting HR is 46 and HRV average is 171. Bugger me where this is now, I cannot find it ♂️, So the HR sensor is inaccurate but you conclude the data from the other sensors is “probably” very accurate…. And it’s these sort of inconsistencies that are really hard to reconcile from a practicals standpoint. I work nights, so very it would be awesome to be able to say my day actually starts at 11 PM. I can’t spot-check point in time HRV samples from the rest of the day (it only does HRV sampling at night while sleeping), to see if those are correct (which would validate or invalidate sleep metrics). This is a huge gap so I needed to dig in. The majority of the “community” are cross fit types, have clearly fallen for the marketing, hook, line & sinker. But then again, so does every smartwatch out there. It’s not terribly intuitive. If that’s the case (but certainly not saying my choices aren’t good for women), and you just want to see a different gear … We also have News, Discussion of the Week, Website of the Week and Q&A’s.By Bevan James Eyles and 'Coach' John Newsom, This week we have an interview with pro athlete Adam Bowden. And like all single-tasker things, the bar for success is higher. Oura is technically not a fitness device/app, but a sleep and readiness/recovery tracker. I’m sure now that I will get comments to do it the right way, or to use a Polar strap, etc, and that might be valid comments – but whats is beside the point when comparing it to a Vantage V, Whoop, Garmin or Oura worn at night collecting data in the background. Totally agree. It does make an effort to capture subtle strain that way. another great review and thanks for saving my money. The only challenge here is I find the charging dock is super finicky when it comes to which devices it’ll recharge from. Eagerly awaiting an “official” response from whoop.
It was really hilarious. I said the same on dropping scores. Where will you share? But at the end of the day, you might just be wondering “What does Ray use when not testing new products?”. (I say that not knowing exactly what that methodology might be.) Thanks for this in-depth review, you just saved me $180! Whereas activity strain is based on time spent in a given heart rate zone.
I've long been a fan of the Withings WiFi scales, especially since they can connect/push data to so many platforms, including Zwift!
You can also tweak/edit the start/end times in case they’re off a bit, as well as change the exact sport type if you need to: But let’s go back to the ‘Strain’. This was a massively successful series which created many of the stars of the day. Below are the most popular.
Sir – I have no interest in this product at all. It’s just annoying. Then hit up Wiggle at the link below! I am not a good sleeper and routinely wake up multiple times each night. The scales of these are based on different time parameters. Are you willing to review or test beta products? Specifically strain in Whoop is measured by how much time you spend in a given heart rate zone (that’s it). For a while, I slept with both the Whoop and an Oura ring. It just focuses on today, and your history up until this point. Since 2006 IMTalk has been the weekly Ironman fix for thousands of athletes from all around the world! Some transparency into the base metrics they apply, AND the ability to modify them based on your own history or level of training. That said, I did test it with Polar H10 strap some 1-2 years ago – forgot wich – and got more consistent results then. DC Rainmaker 2019 swim, bike, run, and general gear list. A lot of people love it, it does have some great strengths. Just brilliant work. Been waiting for this for years – the thumbs down from Ray! Until this morning the Whoop has taken up to 3 hours to process my overnight data (I always put my phone in ‘aircraft mode’ overnight). rivaling only the Suunto 7’s less than stellar optical HR accuracy. Obviously, many people here in the comments noted it – and certainly it’s been around a while. You go deep like no one else and provide all of your readers great tools to decide what to buy from your reviews. Anyone that owns a Garmin 735 or newer, knows the Garmin captures much more data than the Whoop. So, if we look at left, you’ll see that it doesn’t show any workout yet for the day, yet my day strain is of moderate levels for theoretically not doing a workout.
The Bevan James Eyles Show - The Fitness Behaviour Podcast. I’ve had the whoop for about 18 months now and found the HR readings given simply are not accurate especially during a workout.
Hi Ray, thanks for this detailed review. Typical day strain (without workout) is usually 4ish, sometimes even lower on a particularly lazy day. Vastly bigger. So more soon! You can use it as well for your own gadget comparisons, more details here.). Solid review though! I found that V2 was better at sleep measurement , but only marginally better at assessing my actual exercise rates. Typically speaking, most of us nap because we’re tired from the previous night (late night out, on a flight, other disturbances, etc…). I usually install betas if it fixes something that’s an issue for me, or if it’s got a boatload of new features I want to dig into.
are useless, because it doesn’t capture the whole picture. Their 4 hour test window is WAY more reliable (not to mention practical) than the X minute reading each morning with HRV4training and in almost a year I must have had maybe 5 missing “ANS Recharge” readings. I’m sure by now my Tweet-storm is well known in Whoop HQ and they’ve probably carefully removed anything that doesn’t jibe in there. Based on the heart rate monitor comparisons I agree that interval training the whoop was the worst performing heart rate monitor if the bunch. I have been waiting for a proper review from anyone, but especially you for ages. WHOOP Strap 3.0 (Free) The WHOOP Strap 3.0 collects physiological data 24/7 to provide the most accurate and granular understanding of your body. You probably stumbled upon here looking for a review of a sports gadget. ⚡ This is a very strong deal - by far the lowest price the Airpods Pro have ever been.
But really, the issue is those intervals.
So, let’s dig a little bit deeper into the sleep coach now.
As a backup “sports” watch it’s decent too with the nylon straps recommended by Mark (way back when it was released) generally providing very decent HR readings (much better/consistent than what I ever got from my FR235 or FR935) while running (I flip the watch on my right wrist) and I use it to track load as my main sports watch is the FR935.
It’s really pretty hard to get my head around the numbers. And in a device that is 100% based on the accuracy of that sensor, it’s a huge problem. This cycling workout with an activity strain of 11.3 factually didn’t exist.
Also, I have changed a bunch of things around to drive higher recovery scores. Sure, it’s good for the warm-up and the first interval. For some theoretical device that didn’t have the HR measurement problems, would it even be capable of informing your training better than just a self-assessment of whether you’re tired and overtrained? It looked appealing but the imo hefty price of the subscription model + shit data is enough to steer me clear. One thing I observed multiple times is that it would calculate a sleep score based on my sleep until a very early morning wake up, then recalculate after my final sleep cycle. Whereas just sitting at your desk generally won’t increase it much. Last year we released a feature that enables you to overlay your WHOOP metrics onto photos and easily share them on social media. But it won’t change anything about your recovery scores. We exist to improve your life, not invade it. The body temperature change and respiration rate metrics have been good early warnings when I may have been getting a cold, or worse respiratory illness. I’ve never used the bicep strap, but I have found that the wrist strap accuracy is *highly* dependent on very subtle differences in tightness on the wrist. However, I’m a cyclist and it didn’t recognise cycling (especially on the indoor trainer), I could do an FTP test and it wouldn’t recognise it at all, it would appear as less effort than an easy stroll. Your review knocks it out of the park – I wish it was out 3 months ago when I got my whoop! Great review, I’ve been using my whoop for about ~6 months after purchasing a year subscription during their black Friday sale. Thanks for your review it confirms a lot of my thoughts on the device. Are you wearing is right? For every one, cycling outside gives you higher HR and Power with the same level of exertion. I’m not sure how the company thinks they can stay in business with the high price and poor quality product. I purchased and have the source study write-up, and they fail to provide the data supporting the marketing claim that WHOOP accurately detects sleep stages. I have consistently found that Whoop under-reports the metric for me vs Polar, EliteHRV and HRV4Training. All they have to do is change the input for heart rate information but they likely don’t want to do that because they want to own everything that they’re using to get the information because it’s likely a lot easier for them to get the information they need without dealing with all the different possible heart monitors. If you go out and clear brush, eat weeds for an hour, that is a workout. Not sure what the commercial position is of Rainmaker. In this episode Andrew shares amazing insights from research…, This week we have an interview with Pro Athlete Kelsey Withrow. Said differently, my experience is that if an optical HR sensor doesn’t get me right, everyone else is up crap creek. Polar allowed customization of personal zones on their HRM products in the 1980’s ! For people following along, in this episode of the Whoop podcast, the two founders do say that PPG HR sensors are great when you’re not moving, but then get lots of noise when the contact between device and human moves.
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