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If my Great-grandfather’s name was David Jackson, Sr. (Deceased), and my Paternal Grandfather’s name is David Jackson, Jr. (Living), and if I have a son (Since I have a middle name and both of them don’t) would he be named David Jackson III?

So, my grandpa’s name is Jose Valle Salazar and so is my dad’s but mine is Anthony James Salazar since my dad left my mom at an early age of mine, could I change my name to Jose Valle Salazar and be an III or does it no work that way? All documents leading up til he becamw a Sr won’t have that suffix. Do I absolutely have to keep the middle name the same in order for our son to be V? I have no idea where you’re getting that idea. You state this as if it is a hard and fast rule. They can use both suffixes if they so choose, example Sr/II & Jr/IV. Notable examples include Green Day drummer Frank Edwin "Tré Cool" Wright III, South Park co-creator Randolph Severn "Trey" Parker III, and Willard Carroll "Trey" Smith III, elder son of actor Willard Carroll "Will" Smith Jr. Another convention is for the elder member of a family to go by their first name, and the younger one to go by their middle name. It’s a simple error. Nadine, Ok, my Dad had a brother named John Clay, who died very young. If the father’s name is Fabien Antiono Zarius Jones then, no. Rule #10: REMINDER: Chronology Determines Order of Roman Numeral Suffixes. !.as Carol I being the first carol as king….Carol II also had a son named Carol who is not a III? I am named JWS. Let’s see if this works. what rules apply ? If you’re a junior and you name your son after yourself, does he become a junior and you a senior? According to formal convention, the full name (including the middle name) must be exactly the same as an ancestor for a suffix to be used. Should I name my son Jack B. Smith, II ? "Dr" or "Atty") or the suffix (see examples above) is used, but not both. Ulysses Jr.'s son, born afterwards in 1893, was Ulysses IV. Genealogists cannot assume that persons designated Senior and Junior were father and son. I’m confused about the four Joseph P. Kennedys. Furthermore, once the woman marries, she would most commonly take the surname of her husband and thus do away with the generational suffix. Not what I wanted to hear but kinda knew that was the answer. Copyright © 2020 Multiply Media, LLC. Or would I now be considered a Sr. or Jr.? If a father and son are Sr and Jr is it possible for another son (different name) Except I have roman numeral II and he has no suffix.

Do you name the first boy delivered with the IV, and some other name for the second child delivered? George Forman named all 5 of his sons after him. I want to add Bob, because that’s I’m writing a historical fiction series and am creating the oldest documented “generational name” in the (probably Western) world, that originated around the time of the Battle of Hastings (it’s a profession designation that evolved into a surname, as so many do) .

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My name is Steven Juarez I just had a newborn son I want to name him using the suffix ” || ” how can I name him The biggest point of confusion is if the suffix is part of their legal birth name (or legal name if changed later in life, whatever is on their birth certificate) or if it is the right to use a legal TITLE as a result of having an identical birth (certificate) name as another family member. Technically speaking, if a father is John James Smith and a son is John George Smith, they are not Senior and Junior, nor are they I and II. My husband’s name is Jesse which is a unisex name and he is the III. When someone dies none of the suffixes change. You can name your children whatever you want (last names included). John Quincy Public, Jr. names his son, John Quincy Public… who is, correctly, named John Quincy Public, II (second)! Here’s something that I don’t see addressed. And would Michael Smith, Sr. have to change his name to Michael Smith I? Depends on how many relatives before your boy friend had the same name. In modern times, men tend to identify themselves more or less permanently as “Sr.”, “Jr.”, II, III, IV and so on. But, that’s his legal name.

He had another son with a different woman & they named him Javier A Garza Jr. My question is. In publications, for example, you shouldn’t refer to Bobby Jr. or Mr. Smith Sr. unless you are quoting someone who referred to Bobby or Mr. Smith that way. (Lacking definition, it could theoretically be claimed by almost anyone though.)

If a man have two children by different women but both women wants to name their child after the father can the first born be a Jr and the second born be a III?? Dog inch sr” himself putting the original “sr” in second place to now “jr” …… was that time travel? Project managers that have obtained certification as Project Management Professionals from the Project Management Institute may use the suffix PMP after their name. My father name. This suffix naming convention become popular in Western society in the Enlightenment era, when proto-industrialization started introducing some class mobility to Western society. Francis Wayne Sinatra, son of Francis Albert "Frank" Sinatra). No that would not apply as the IV’s last name is not the same as the III’s. We also have 2 daughters and we only have them the last name of Cuellar. I think the Roman numeral name suffixes sound better on my name. Jr/Sr is reserved for a living father son and can change. It your responsibility to do so. My dads brother had a son john —- —-3rd. Thank you.!!! Even same-named siblings can use Roman numeral suffixes to indicate their relation to one another.

We are about i have a kid. Generational suffixes are used to distinguish persons who share the same name within a family. Shouldn’t he be Sr. And I junior? If you are named after your father then you are Jr, III, IV, V, etc. Michael Smith, Jr. This is what they put on the passport. I got confused looks as if they expected my to be a grown man with a son of my own. (Of EXACT name–can use “Sr” and “Jr” as well as “I” and “II”–WRONG… CORRUPTIBLE…ARBITRARY. It won’t matter. I have a Michael Jr. which is the oldest, and my youngest son is SirMichael , if I have another son how do I properly give him the same Name??? A III or a junior? He’s now changed his name. Thanks again!! RN is used by qualified nurses as a suffix. October 20, 2013 Josiah Schmidt His son is known as Joseph P. Kennedy III.

My grandfathers name was Michael Constantine Potts. He is the 1st if he has no ancestors named like him. People often incorrectly use the terms “Sr” and “Jr” — for instance, the 43rd US President George Bush is often wrongly referred to as “George Bush, Jr.”, although he and his father have different middle names. hello I want to name my son after his father but he already has a son named after him can I still name by son after his father and would that make him the lll ? But at the same time a 2nd cousin shared a story and pictures of Sr., which matches up with the story of the Sr. in the newspaper, but Sr. does not share the same middle name as Jr. and III. Your question about where to put the suffix when the name is in “last name, first name” format is a good one. Your choice seems to be a) give them the same name with different suffixes, b) name one after you and cause the other to feel less important or c) forego naming them after yourself and give them unique or slightly different family names. Yes, THAT Christopher Columbus). even tho we have different last names. If a father-in-law has the same name as his son-in-law, does the father-in-law become Sr. and the son-in-law Jr. or will they be I and II? I want to carry on the IV name. CISA, CISSP, and/or CISM – may use them as suffixes. suffix=III (the "name" designator, often used to differentiate from another with the same name - Ex: Jr.) professional suffix= PhD. Similarly, a grandson of Henry Ford was named Henry II. Also they could all go by Angel Daniel Diaz I, II, III. The examples and perspective in this section, For a more global view of generational naming, see, Learn how and when to remove this template message, Commonwealth Realms orders and decorations, "Titles – Forms of Address: Untitled Men", https://www.genealogy.com/articles/research/35_donna.html, "Freedom of Information request: Restrictions on Children's Names?

Asking the same question again doesn’t make the answer any different just because it’s you asking. But we should not confuse the cause with the effect. Does this mean it isn’t legal? I say my son’s son, in keeping with tradition, should be WHR, Jr. Am I correct or not?

Any parent and child with the exact same legal name can be referred to as “(Name), Sr.” and “(Name), Jr.”  Below, Barnabas Ludwig Johnson named his son Barnabas Ludwig Johnson also, so they can be called Barnabas Ludwig Johnson, Sr., and Barnabas Ludwig Johnson, Jr. Rule #2: In Order to Use Suffixes, Names Must be EXACTLY the Same. What is the correct arrangement on his passport since they are basing it on the birth certificate which is for example like this MARIO PAUL WALL II. For example, I am no longer (III) but now (II)? Sounds like he may be insecure about his name or place in life and trying to make himself seem more noble or elite.

For example, a Franciscan friar uses the post-nominal initials "O.F.M. John M Smith III.. Harry, you’re wrong. If your son has the same exact name (first, middle, and last) as your husband and father-in-law, then your son could be both “Jr” and “III”. My boyfriend and I were thinking about hyphenating our last names when we get married. I assume Jr or II is/was appropriate? Thank you! No, you are technically not a Jr. or a II. The use of Senior and Junior was merely a means of differentiating two people with the same name, whether related or not. I had a son name Robert J Aprato Jr. instead of Jr. He will not become Sr until he has a son and gives him the same name. Due to a fear of me getting labeled with the nickname Jr, he opted to use the numerals II on my birth certificate. With due respect for his efforts, Josiah Schmidt is WRONG in regards to this matter.

In colonial times, and for most of the nineteenth century, the use of Senior and Junior did not imply any relationship at all. Can we refer to my son as jr, or is he just ” the third”? So is there a definitive answer or is it more that the last set is hard to say (but maybe technically correct) and so by convention we go with: Yes, technically there should always be a comma between the individual’s name and their suffix. Quite intriguing… Is this a true story or just want beautiful fairy tale? Do we have to do it that way or does it make sense to do Will A Patterson Jr II? His wife decides to take his surname, and legally becomes Angelique Faversham Purple.

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